<CentralAve> i have even fewer ideas for that than i did everything else! :D
<Icon> Heh.
<Icon> make sure to think of something ruo can't just punch his way out of <~ You said this, so I'm thinking perhaps Christa and Ruo encounter a doppelganger or are trapped in some sort of illusory maze which they can't handle, or something? I'm not sure, beyond those being things Ruo can't fight away.
<Calica> mornng
<Calica> er
<Calica> afternoong
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<Icon> Hey Myrdradude
<Myrdradek> hey
<Calica> Alright, now to wait for Yarrun and if he doesn't come, we'll do it without him and come up with a kicker with him later
<Myrdradek> He might have forgotten, like me
<CentralAve> my food's here just in time for roleplay ^_^
<Calica> but yeah, if you have any idea for something that'll fuck up your character's life
<CentralAve> brb bathroom break
<Myrdradek> I was thinking of something that would convince my character his legacy was doomed if he doesn't intervene
<Icon> Hrm.
<Icon> I was thinking one of her tome/books/whatevers could've gotten stolen, since those are sort of what she uses to deal with, yannow, sorcery being what it is.
<Myrdradek> I was thinking of getting news that an older brother was found dead in a motel room on the same day he gets news that his family house is going to be foreclosed on if he doesn't pony up money soon.
<Icon> Questionable coping mechanisms etc.
<CentralAve> back now
<Icon> Although I'm not sure how someone would get into her tightly locked up apartment short of really breaking and entering, or only taking one of the notebooks 9maybe alongside other items?).
<Icon> (*
<Calica> so your kicker is that an important sorcery book...maybe your most important sorcery book got stolen
<Icon> Yeah, pretty much.
<Calica> Maybe there's evidence tying it to Zachary/Felix
<Icon> Whoever took it, she's not, ahem, going to pull any punches about getting it back. u_u
<Calica> That said, is this something that you can't just pull out Ruo etc
<Icon> Well, I don't think she'd want to use Ruo all willy-nilly. And the punches was mostly me being silly.
<Icon> But yeah kind of still hashing out something like that.
<CentralAve> I gotta think...what's something that would suitably fuck up Helena's life, when she already has such a tenuous grasp on reality?
<Icon> Perhaps some big political BS recently happened that throws her even more over the edge? Like, instead of interpreting Innocuous Law #7000 as The End Times, something actually threatening(ish?) occurs and then she responds as you'd expect.
<CentralAve> That would make sense
<Icon> It doesn't have to be in this city, I assume someone like her's obsessively following junk all around.
<CentralAve> She's basically one of the "omg fema death camp" people from before we knew fema was incompetent, so i do wonder what kind of thing would set her off even more than usual. hmm...
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<Icon> Right
<Myrdradek> So is my kicker okay?
<Calica> It kinda seems like two Kickers almost?
<Myrdradek> That's a good point
<Myrdradek> Maybe not having the money for his house is a looming thing, and the brother is a kicker
<Calica> yeah, the former semes like it was already kind of part of his character, so
<CentralAve> What if she recently heard about the collapse of some nation's economy and worries it means the end of her home nation's economy? But that doesn't seem "immediate" enough to present a real threat to her, since the threat is mostly imagined
<Myrdradek> I thought it ukes, actually
<Myrdradek> CentralAve Maybe pick a random European country, like, let's say, Greece
<CentralAve> See I almost said Greece but I worried that'd be too tasteless :v
<Calica> CentralAve: Yeah, I'd try to go for something personal that actually throws a wrench in her life
<Calica> I'm not really sure something happening in Greece is gonna do that tbh
<Myrdradek> Hm
<Myrdradek> Being accused of a crime she didn't commit, due to circumstantial stuff?
<CentralAve> I was thinking something like
<Myrdradek> Like she doesn't have to be a serious suspect, it's just the threat of it
<CentralAve> Her lifelong friend is in trouble with the feds for tax evasion, her sister is being hounded by debt collectors, and other such things and she worries it's a targeted conspiracy to attack those closest to her
<CentralAve> or is that TOO convoluted
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<Icon> It seems a little busy to me.
<CentralAve> alright, let's go with Myrdradek's suggesion then
<Icon> To me just the sister thing seems enough
<Icon> Or that, yah
<CentralAve> I'm thinking perhaps someone she knew was found dead and she worries she'll be framed for their murder
<Calica> Maybe her coworker as a goon for that zillionaire
<CentralAve> That would make sense, yes
<Myrdradek> "Me And My Little Sister Got Trapped In An MMO But It Was That Weird One With The Deer With Human Faces" is my new anime
<Myrdradek> Ooops
<Myrdradek> Wrong thread
<Myrdradek> Wrong channel
<Icon> But yeah makes sense to me.
<CentralAve> like the fact that she's a goon for a zillionaire to begin with means there's some shady stuff going on, so it doesn't seem that farfetched that she might worry about being targeted for it
<Icon> Also I assume Ruo etc. would be our first bound demons?
<Calica> Icon: Yeah, those are the first demons you've bound
<Icon> Cool, written down.
<Calica> but yeah, and I'd also work on putting a thing or two into the Kicker, and moving around the things that are already on there so that the things close to other aspects are close to them physically
<Icon> Are close to them physically?
<Myrdradek> On the chart?
<CentralAve> should Helena's dead partner have a name
<CentralAve> or her boss for that matter
<Calica> CentralAve: Yes, they should
<Calica> Icon: On the chart
<Calica> so, if something's both Lore and Cover, it'll be close to the line between the two, etc
<Calica> CentralAve: I'm just bad at coming up with names
<Icon> Oooh
<CentralAve> Calica: that's what we have Icon for
<Icon> Heheh.
<Icon> Uh. Ashley?
<Icon> Or Ash, dohohoho
<Icon> What else to put for it...
<Icon> Like, if she can't find any clues, physical or supernatural, that'd definitely send her into a frenzy but is that not enough or what
<Icon> "signs of drug use on his body" huh.
<Icon> Calica: Perhaps anger from Ruo too, or something like that, if that's not enough?
<Calica> Icon: I was thinking maybe a clue that leads to Felix but I can't think of a good one...
<Icon> Why Felix? Because pranks, or
<Calica> Because Zachary is a con-artist type trying to figure out his demons
<Icon> Makes sense
<Calica> though I want to point out that it isn't necessarily him who did it
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<Myrdradek> Are we good?
<Icon> Calica: Not like she'd believe a con artist, once knowing he is one. Well okay she might believe him but you get my point
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<Yarrun> Darnit, I missed Calica
<Calica> Yarrun: sup
<Calica> We've got something down for the other three I think
<Yarrun> Oh, there you are
<Yarrun> Didn't notice you at the top of the member list
<Icon> Oop.
<Myrdradek> Yup
<BabyPrincessAlice> Yarrun: op privilege
<Yarrun> What did I miss?
<Myrdradek> We were actually thinking of tying your character into something, so it's good you came
<Yarrun> Go on
<Calica> David's brother was found dead in a motel room, Christa got her most important book stolen with evidence Felix was responsible (you may or may not have been framed, we'll talk about that in private), and Helena's coworker was killed and she's probably going to be suspected for it
<Calica> Yarrun: I know for your kicker, you were thinking of something that would sort of force Zachary to stay in one place
<Yarrun> Possibly
<Yarrun> Getting framed would also succinctly screw him over
<Yarrun> Last thing he'd want is more people hunting for him
<Calica> Heh, true, though it's not something that changes his situation much
<Yarrun> Then again, he's not being hunted by a sorcerer now.
<Yarrun> Just mortals
<Calica> Well, there's no reason Zachary couldn't just flee like he always does ;)
<Yarrun> He has a tendency to be curious when sorcery comes into things
<Yarrun> Like I said, his overall goal is to become good enough at sorcery to go back home and wipe out his enemies
<Calica> so what you're saying is he has the motive too :p
<Myrdradek> That would involve learning more so he can summon more demons, I think
<Yarrun> Which would make him a prime candidate for jacking Christa's book, yes
<Yarrun> Or he could have been framed, in which case he might try and hunt down the guy who's framing him
<Icon> Either way you've got a young pissed off girl chasing you down, at some point, probably. GL HF
<Yarrun> I think I will, actually
<Icon> I am curious how she'd go about finding out something about Zachary tho
<Icon> Like how that works
<Calica> I was thinking maybe the effects of the holes caused the books to end up falling strangely
<Yarrun> Or one of the holes might not have reverted by the time she looked into it
<Icon> So some sort of magical residue, pretty much?
<Yarrun> That, and Zachary has a tendency to poke his head around covens
<Yarrun> So sorcerers might know of him
<Calica> I was thinking at the very least demons would know of him for unexplained demon reasons
<Yarrun> but maybe not Felix, is waht I'm u
<Icon> Well Christa's not a coven-going sorcerer. :V
<Yarrun> Oh? Huh.
<Icon> She's the reclusive type
<Icon> Hanging up elaborate drawing of sorcery bullcrap, scattered books all lying around
<Yarrun> She could just, you know, catch him in the act
<Icon> That works for me. Cali?
<Yarrun> or catch someone who looks like him in the act
<Icon> (Also, "Secretive.")
<Calica> Icon: oh yeah, we still need to decide when you'll get -1s for secretive
<Icon> Calica: Yeh
<Calica> I guess, when is being secretive going to hurt her
<Icon> I'd assume when interacting with people, perhaps regularly. Can't get too friendly with people or else you'll probably eventually make friends, and her place is what it is (which has taken up a good part of her life and isn't going to just go away), so like with casual interactions or something like that?
<Icon> Sort of like how Helena would have trouble interacting properly, except instead of "is a nutjob" is "can't say too much"
<Icon> in general*
<Icon> That seem like a fair comparison, CentralAve|work?
<Calica> When interacting verbally maybe?
<Icon> Except not in the stuttery sorta way, yeah? Also, sorry about this being hard to be precise about. >_>;
<BabyPrincessAlice> Icon: Yeah, I think so
<Icon> in the Ayako/stuttery*
<Calica> Icon: Not stuttery, but always second-guessing yourself, trying to remember lies, it takes a mental toll
<Icon> I'm thinking lies and being untrustworthy of other people, which makes more sense to me.
<Icon> Otherwise, yeah, it does.
<Icon> remembering lies*
<Icon> Not trusting*
<Icon> Also, edited my thingamajigger
<Icon> Yarrun: Should put Felix in as your demon demon, and get rid of 4/5, by the way
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<Icon> Us there anything I'm missing?
<Icon> Is, too
<Calica> Not really. Might want to make sure everything you want is on your character sheet.
<Myrdradek> I have everything, I think
<Icon> Same, i think.
<Calica> CentralAve, Yarrun?
<Calica> If everyone's satisfied with their characters thus far, then we can call it a night and meet back here on Monday
<Icon> I think I'm more or less satisfied
<CentralAve> Ugh, sorry, zoned out for a bit. I'm satisfied, yeah, and more time to give this more thought will be nice.
<Myrdradek> Okay, see ya
<Myrdradek> Same time?
<Icon> I assume same as always on Monday. If not, Calico will mention it.